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Twisted Avatar 10-30-2008 10:01 AM
Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...52206#27452206

eyeofliberty 10-30-2008 11:47 AM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Of course they do. It's kinda their "thing". They're nothing, if not consistent.

Hey, when are we gonna outlaw cars? More kids die from evil cars each year, than they do from guns...

Twisted Avatar 10-30-2008 11:53 AM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
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Originally Posted by eyeofliberty (Post 1387171)
Of course they do. It's kinda their "thing". They're nothing, if not consistent.

Hey, when are we gonna outlaw cars? More kids die from evil cars each year, than they do from guns...

The court sharks and the donut brigade get too much money from that con.


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Elvis 10-30-2008 12:26 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Why don't they just outlaw stupidity.

That way, only outlaws would be stupid.

Big_Rob 10-30-2008 12:43 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
*Sigh*

The attacks on our second amendment rights have begun yet again. I don't see how any gun owner can vote for any Democrat.

Drumblebum 10-30-2008 12:46 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1387286)
*Sigh*

The attacks on our second amendment rights have begun yet again. I don't see how any gun owner can vote for any Democrat.
I don't see how any gun owner can vote for any republican, either. They both want you disarmed. Keeps them safer while they are raping you.

mick silver 10-30-2008 12:51 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
a punk killed the kid , anyway you look at it it still a punk that killed the kid , why are we not hanging the punks that kill people for no good reason , WE NEED TOWN HANGING FOR ALL TO SEE , THIS WOULD HELP END THE WILD WEST KILLINGS

Twisted Avatar 10-30-2008 12:58 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 1387296)
I don't see how any gun owner can vote for any republican, either. They both want you disarmed. Keeps them safer while they are raping you.
Whoever wins............ We loose

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Tn...Andy 10-30-2008 02:07 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeofliberty (Post 1387171)
Of course they do. It's kinda their "thing". They're nothing, if not consistent.

Hey, when are we gonna outlaw cars? More kids die from evil cars each year, than they do from guns...

Quite true.....about 12:1 in fact, in any given year.....and if you take out homicides by firearms, it goes to 30:1, cars over guns.

http://www.the-eggman.com/writings/death_stats.html

jrog100 10-30-2008 02:14 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 1387296)
I don't see how any gun owner can vote for any republican, either. They both want you disarmed. Keeps them safer while they are raping you.
That's right. George Bush let the AWB expire. Hmmmm. Then you had clinton that signed it into law - Now you have another AWB that Congerss is looking at - (H.R. 1022, The Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007) that's gaining traction. It's here if you care to read it: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.1022:

In addition to that, here is the current status on said bill:

http://www.gunlawnews.org/110th-House-Bills/hr1022.html

Read up on the bill. Here are the sponsors:

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY)
Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI)
Rep. Gary Ackerman (D-NY)
Rep. Howard Berman (D-CA)
Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-OR)
Rep. Robert Brady (D-PA)
Rep. Lois Capps (D-CA)
Rep. Yvette Clarke (D-NY)
Rep. William Clay (D-MO)
Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-NY)
Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO)
Rep. William Delahunt (D-MA)
Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL)
Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-CA)
Rep. Sam Farr (D-CA)
Rep. Chaka Fattah (D-PA)
Rep. Bob Filner (D-CA)
Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA)
Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ)
Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA)
Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
Rep. Mazie Hirono (D-HI)
Rep. Rush Holt (D-NJ)
Rep. Michael Honda (D-CA)
Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX)
Rep. Henry Johnson (D-GA)
Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI)
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
Rep. James Langevin (D-RI)
Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA)
Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)
Rep. Nita Lowey (D-NY)
Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY)
Rep. Edward Markey (D-MA)
Rep. Betty McCollum (D-MN)
Rep. James McGovern (D-MA)
Rep. Martin Meehan (D-MA)
Rep. Kendrick Meek (D-FL)
Rep. Bradley Miller (D-NC)
Rep. James Moran (D-VA)
Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-PA)
Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY)
Del. Eleanor Norton (D-DC)
Rep. John Olver (D-MA)
Rep. William Pascrell (D-NJ)
Rep. Edward Pastor (D-AZ)
Rep. David Price (D-NC)
Rep. Steven Rothman (D-NJ)
Rep. Janice Schakowsky (D-IL)
Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA)
Rep. Allyson Schwartz (D-PA)
Rep. Joe Sestak (D-PA)
Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA)
Rep. Albio Sires (D-NJ)
Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY)
Rep. Hilda Solis (D-CA)
Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-CA)
Rep. John Tierney (D-MA)
Rep. Niki Tsongas (D-MA)
Rep. Christopher Van Hollen (D-MD)
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL)
Rep. Diane Watson (D-CA)
Rep. Melvin Watt (D-NC)
Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA)
Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL)
Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-CA)
Rep. Albert Wynn (D-MD)

I don't see ANY Republicans on this list. Now you can go back and re-read your post to determine if it's in error.

Atahualpa 10-30-2008 02:20 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
What sent a chill down my spine was how calm and collected the father was talking about the son he was responsible for killing. Funky stuff.

Stonewall 10-30-2008 02:29 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
So was the Uzi a machine gun or a semi-automatic? They say both in the clip.

Shoden 10-30-2008 02:40 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
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Originally Posted by jrog100 (Post 1387468)
That's right. George Bush let the AWB expire.
That used to be one of the few things I gave Bush credit for, but then I found out he doesn't deserve credit for it. The Republican Congress let it expire, but if they had voted to renew it, Bush has said we would have signed the renewal instead of vetoing it.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ban/index.html - "President Bush says he will sign a bill renewing the assault weapons ban if Congress passes it."

As for Democrats and the 2nd Amendment, I was honestly surprised when I was looking over a Kansas voting guide from the NRA and they had several Democrats with better pro-gun grades then the Republican running against them. Still, it was predominately Republicans with the better grades.

Drumblebum 10-30-2008 02:46 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrog100 (Post 1387468)

*snip*

I don't see ANY Republicans on this list. Now you can go back and re-read your post to determine if it's in error.
I have no doubt that the voting record associated to a bill designed to support the mechanism of political wedge issues (such as "gun control") will look just as this one does. It keeps you believing that one party (R) is your friend, and the other (D) is your enemy, so that you keep supporting the status quo. One appears to want to disarm you, the other appears to support your right to bear arms to defend your rights against a tyrannical government.

They both know that if necessary, the state can always generate overwhelming force to further its purposes, assault weapons banned or not.

jrog100 10-30-2008 02:52 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 1387545)
I have no doubt that the voting record associated to a bill designed to support the mechanism of political wedge issues (such as "gun control") will look just as this one does. It keeps you believing that one party (R) is your friend, and the other (D) is your enemy, so that you keep supporting the status quo. One appears to want to disarm you, the other appears to support your right to bear arms to defend your rights against a tyrannical government.

They both know that if necessary, the state can always generate overwhelming force to further its purposes, assault weapons banned or not.
OK, keep believing that one party is equal to the other in regard to gun control. See what happens.

igorthesmall 10-30-2008 03:11 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonewall (Post 1387507)
So was the Uzi a machine gun or a semi-automatic? They say both in the clip.
Apparently it was a semi-automatic.

Litho 10-30-2008 03:15 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Where is the outrage over swimming pools? How can we let all those swimming pools go unregulated? They should be registered, banned in public, and no swimming pools within 5 miles of a school! Please, think of the children!


Estimated guns in the United States: 275 million

Unintentional firearm deaths ages 0-14 (according to the CDC) from 2000 to 2005: 412

Estimated swimming pools in the United States: 2.5 million

Unintentional drowning deaths from 2000 to 2005 ages 0-14: 4,993

Drumblebum 10-30-2008 03:23 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrog100 (Post 1387562)
OK, keep believing that one party is equal to the other in regard to gun control. See what happens.
I'm not sure how my beliefs affect the issue, or the laws. They certainly haven't up to now...

TUMS 10-30-2008 09:03 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
If you want a semi auto you better get it NOW. Before the election.

http://obamagun.blogspot.com/2008/08...-shotguns.html

I'm sure if Mclame gets in he won't be much nicer to our guns either.

extremist 10-30-2008 10:48 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1387607)
Apparently it was a semi-automatic.
The reporter referred to a "semi-automatic Uzi machine gun." This is self-contradictory, yet the phrase manages to sound ominous and threatening, as intended. For some reason, correct terms like "fully automatic" or just "automatic" don't seem to have the same negative connotation.

Twisted Avatar 10-30-2008 11:02 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atahualpa (Post 1387474)
What sent a chill down my spine was how calm and collected the father was talking about the son he was responsible for killing. Funky stuff.


He was EXTREMELY DETACHED..

I want to say he was ER doctor so he is trained in matters of life and death But DAM.

I would be beyond greif stricken if that was my kid also where is the childs mother???


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Caligula 10-30-2008 11:07 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeofliberty (Post 1387171)
Of course they do. It's kinda their "thing". They're nothing, if not consistent.

Hey, when are we gonna outlaw cars? More kids die from evil cars each year, than they do from guns...
How about alcohol????

Caligula 10-30-2008 11:08 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Litho (Post 1387610)
Where is the outrage over swimming pools? How can we let all those swimming pools go unregulated? They should be registered, banned in public, and no swimming pools within 5 miles of a school! Please, think of the children!


Estimated guns in the United States: 275 million

Unintentional firearm deaths ages 0-14 (according to the CDC) from 2000 to 2005: 412

Estimated swimming pools in the United States: 2.5 million

Unintentional drowning deaths from 2000 to 2005 ages 0-14: 4,993
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6089353/

Drumblebum 10-30-2008 11:23 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caligula (Post 1388440)
How about alcohol????
Yeah, they tried that. Turned out it didn't work out so well.

GetSomeAuAg 10-30-2008 11:48 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrog100 (Post 1387468)
That's right. George Bush let the AWB expire. Hmmmm. Then you had clinton that signed it into law - Now you have another AWB that Congerss is looking at - (H.R. 1022, The Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007) that's gaining traction. It's here if you care to read it: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.1022:

In addition to that, here is the current status on said bill:

http://www.gunlawnews.org/110th-House-Bills/hr1022.html

Read up on the bill. Here are the sponsors:

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY)
Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI)
Rep. Gary Ackerman (D-NY)
Rep. Howard Berman (D-CA)
Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-OR)
Rep. Robert Brady (D-PA)
Rep. Lois Capps (D-CA)
Rep. Yvette Clarke (D-NY)
Rep. William Clay (D-MO)
Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-NY)
Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO)
Rep. William Delahunt (D-MA)
Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL)
Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-CA)
Rep. Sam Farr (D-CA)
Rep. Chaka Fattah (D-PA)
Rep. Bob Filner (D-CA)
Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA)
Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ)
Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA)
Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
Rep. Mazie Hirono (D-HI)
Rep. Rush Holt (D-NJ)
Rep. Michael Honda (D-CA)
Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX)
Rep. Henry Johnson (D-GA)
Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI)
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
Rep. James Langevin (D-RI)
Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA)
Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)
Rep. Nita Lowey (D-NY)
Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY)
Rep. Edward Markey (D-MA)
Rep. Betty McCollum (D-MN)
Rep. James McGovern (D-MA)
Rep. Martin Meehan (D-MA)
Rep. Kendrick Meek (D-FL)
Rep. Bradley Miller (D-NC)
Rep. James Moran (D-VA)
Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-PA)
Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY)
Del. Eleanor Norton (D-DC)
Rep. John Olver (D-MA)
Rep. William Pascrell (D-NJ)
Rep. Edward Pastor (D-AZ)
Rep. David Price (D-NC)
Rep. Steven Rothman (D-NJ)
Rep. Janice Schakowsky (D-IL)
Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA)
Rep. Allyson Schwartz (D-PA)
Rep. Joe Sestak (D-PA)
Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA)
Rep. Albio Sires (D-NJ)
Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY)
Rep. Hilda Solis (D-CA)
Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-CA)
Rep. John Tierney (D-MA)
Rep. Niki Tsongas (D-MA)
Rep. Christopher Van Hollen (D-MD)
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL)
Rep. Diane Watson (D-CA)
Rep. Melvin Watt (D-NC)
Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA)
Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL)
Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-CA)
Rep. Albert Wynn (D-MD)

I don't see ANY Republicans on this list. Now you can go back and re-read your post to determine if it's in error.
Hmm, I think you should be paying attention to this bill instead. Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...bill=h110-6257

Well whaddayaknow....it was introduced by several Republican congressman. If this doesn't show you that both party's goal is your disarming then I don't know what else to say.

Twisted Avatar 11-08-2008 04:46 PM
Re: Kids body isnt even cold yet and they want new gun laws
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 1388469)
Yeah, they tried that. Turned out it didn't work out so well.
Turned out REAL WELL if your name was Kennedy or Capone Boot legging is what got some of those "first familes" the status they do today.


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